Propel won't die.

Hi there, my name is William Durand and, François introduced me in the previous post. He said a lot of positive points about me and I'm glad to hear that from him.

Let me introduce myself a bit more, I'm currently working with François at e-TF1 and while I'm mainly focused on symfony2 developments using Propel and I can assure you it works well !

A month ago, some people asked if I'd become the new Propel lead developer and my answer was quite clear : very unlikely. François did a huge work on Propel, thanks for that but it makes it even harder to take over.

I though a lot before asking him the keys and I would probably never asked him without the trust of two guys : Julien Muetton (@themouette) and Vincent Mazenod (@mazenovi) who were sharing my feeling : Propel can't die.

Open source is about involving people together to build awesome things, that's why I'm proud to announce that Julien, Vincent and I are what we can call "the new Propel core team".

From now on, the Propel project is not just the Propel ORM, it's also the sfPropel15Plugin plugin for symfony 1.x and the PropelBundle bundle for Symfony2  and we are three developers to improve these three projects.

We've known each other for a long time and we share the same philosophy about how to improve Propel. Our main goal is to provide a better integration of Propel with Symfony2 in order to propose a real alternative to Doctrine2. More points will be presented in the next weeks on this blog. We are walking in the same direction in order to keep Propel on the state of the art.

By the way, a major change just appeared. The plain old SVN repository is frozen as well as the TRAC system, you should now look at the Github organizationhttps://github.com/propelorm. We are now using Git as the main Version Control System and you will find the following projects :

New issues will have to be reported in through Github, in the appropriate repository. Old tickets will be reviewed but if you expect us to work on your problem, you are encouraged to duplicate your issue in Github tracker. We also expect a lot of Pull Requests from you and we will happily to merge them. And please, don't forget unit tests ;)

The last words will be for François, you made an amazing work on Propel and working day by day with you is always a pleasure.

Oh, one more thing ! We'll organize a meetup in september so stay tuned :)

Propel is really back !

Posted by William DURAND 

24 comments

Aug 04, 2011
rmm said...
Hello and welcome all three of you. I'm really, really glad to see Propel didn't die!
Aug 04, 2011
It's great to hear Propel is not dead, because the more I use Doctrine2, the more I consider getting back to Propel
Aug 04, 2011
xplo said...
propel 1.6 is the orm king for symfony 1, i hope you ll be able to do the same for symfony2 :)
Aug 04, 2011
Great to hear from you!
Thanks for taking over this awesome project. You're clearly following big footsteps and I'm sure you're doing your best to get it done. I'm crossing my fingers :-)
Aug 04, 2011
William DURAND said...
rmm, xplo, Thorsten Richter : Thanks :)

Alexandre Salomé : Hell yeah, and you're not alone ! That's why we want to provide a strong Propel integration for Symfony2.

Aug 04, 2011
Matias Lopez said...
This is really GOOD NEWS!! Glad to hear that Propel is alive! Thanks guys! I hope François stays around too.
Aug 05, 2011
xavismeh said...
Congratulation guys, glad to see that "Propel won't die" !
Aug 05, 2011
Manel said...
I've seen this post this morning and really you have made my day!!

Get a great welcome!!!

Aug 05, 2011
nibsirahsieu said...
Thanks Francois for your amazing works and welcome the three musketeers ;)
Aug 06, 2011
Sam said...
thanks for taking over propel! great to hear you guys are that motivated.
keep up the good work!
Aug 08, 2011
Davert said...
And what about Propel2? I think that would be a good idea to evolve Propel this way. symfony1 and Propel 1.6 are cool, but a bit outdated, If you start new project you probably will look at Symfony2 and Doctrine2. I don't like them, but the Propel2 could create a real alternative for raw Doctrine2 with most of it's features.

Will the Propel2 be developed by core team? What's the plan for Propel2?

Aug 11, 2011
diamondfox said...
Great news, really didn't want to see Propel dying just when it was starting to look really good!
Aug 12, 2011
topalaradu said...
It's great that Propel project is still active and in good hands ! Another happy news in the morning :)
Aug 12, 2011
Romain Dorgueil said...
Gratz William, very happy to know Propel will go on. I wish you good luck with all the new work you'll have to keep it up ...

And @alexandre I completely agree on your point.

Aug 14, 2011
pbkyriak said...
Welcome!! Happy to know that propel will continue rocking!
Aug 14, 2011
james said...
Propel will be better and better!
Aug 15, 2011
William DURAND said...
Thank you everybody from "the three musketeers" :)

@Davert : the Propel2 project is not part of the PropelORM organization, that means it won't be developed by the core team. Propel 1.6 is great and there is a bundle to integrate it in a Symfony2 project, this is the safest way.

Aug 17, 2011
Loïc said...
Hi William, congrats, and good luck for the challenge.
I think I'm not the only one to expect news from you about the Symfony2 propel integration which is on my opinion a key point to give visibility to Propel1.6
Are there any plan for a stable release of the PropelBundle (what's the status of this development right now ?), and what about cookbooks to include into the Symfony2 documentation ?
What I miss from some time ago now is a roadmap with some indication on what Propel will allow us to do, and when, thanks for sharing your opinion and plans about that.
Loïc
Aug 17, 2011
William DURAND said...
@Loic : Thanks. The PropelBundle works fine.
The roadmaps for Propel, PropelBundle and sfPropel15Plguin will be annonced after the meetup, probably in September. You can use Propel with Symfony2 without any problem by the way.
Sep 05, 2011
ben said...
Thanks for maintaining Propel's awesome propulsion!
Sep 07, 2011
pbkyriak said...
I tryied to use propel with symfony2 and i am stack in forms and validation.
Not supported yet or I am missing something?
Sep 12, 2011
anon said...
Where is the documentation now? propel.org sends me to a github error page. https://github.com/propelorm does not have anything that even remotely resembles the ease of use of the old documentation.
Sep 15, 2011
@anon: http://www.propelorm.org has the most up-to-date ducumentation. What do you need for a better ease of use?
Sep 15, 2011
Panos Kyriakakis said...
there some confusion
if you type propelorm.org it redirects to the old site http://trac.propelorm.org/
but if you type www.propelorm.org you get the new nice propel site

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